Lovely mod! Always great to see woodworking expanded :) But can we get a recipe to convert the new wooden logs into a standard Wood logs? Just a workaround for some recipies from other mods that use default wood logs (CE arrows for example)

Thank you everyone for the bug reports and feedback!

Unfortunately, I won't be able to get the next update out before I become busy with Halloween shenanigans. Afterwards I will have more time to get back to hacking away at EW2.

Thanks again and have a Happy Halloween!

I second @Leaguenet 's report. I would love to keep a stock of every type of wood logs and planks. For the logs I use Colony Manager, but for planks... Well, this seems more a limitation of Processor framework because the planks get processed by the drying spots. If we could use Do Until X to count both fresh lumber of each type and its respective planks we might be able to keep the stock somewhat balanced. There would be a slight surplus while the planks get processed, but it wouldn't be much of a problem. After all, what use would it be to have all this variety just to convert everything back to vanilla wood? Yes, we could use the coloring mod to have the colored varieties and not use Woodworking 2, but given it feels like cheating to paint without the pawns doing it (some bug from recent versions) i would be against it.
Thank you for your time making and keeping this mod. I hope these requests aren't too unreasonable for you. Cheers!

@Late I've been getting those errors too. From my own mod-list tweaking, I think I've narrowed/connected it with VGP.

and another one: "do until you have X" on a trestle (and likely the table saws too) counts planks, while outputting fresh lumber - which obviously doesn't affect the number of planks, and as such tends to run indefinitely

a minor conflict report: both this mod and Vanilla Armour Expanded have basically the same patch that removes "woody" from the plate armour, which results in a harmless but annoying red error when one of those patches fails

alright lemmi correct myself, it doesnt just have broken configs but it can just straight up brick your save if you run a lot of other mods with it in the long run

Log
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/b5689e1d8b5f96077170b83226546af4

@lordwolfi, I'd recommend posting a hugslib log if you'd like the author to look into it.
@Qomradequeer ty for looking into it. Have lots of high hopes of using this mod, it seems like a better version of simple chains lumber which I absolutely love. Keep up the good work! Im too broke to donate but take my points instead lol

great mod something that rimworld was really missing,
but one question does it make any diffrence if you use a drying spot or dyring rack since both need the same amount of wood and give out the same amount

Also i like to add onto the piles of error reports which is that atleast for me this mod throws +100s of config errors

@Late and @Valenskarr Thank you for the reports. I will look into them when I am able!

i donno if your taking ideas or not, but would it be possible to take like make a structure item and make it a stump and building requirements a wood log and an axe so you can chop wood like paul bunyan untill you can build a treastle?

I'm getting three errors. Failed to find a node with the given xpath for Harp, Passive cooler, and Short Bow.
Here is the log Thanks
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/439e81ac44d9e0d2add3bc01bcc25765

It looks like multiple patches fail when using a small load list with primarily MO and this mod. The errors seem to be a portion of the patches for MO, since I don't see a git link or other preferred method, here is the log; https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/0db61fc039546cfbfd867d8045610c6e

@ShrapNIl I recommend using another mod which adds log walls, such as VFE - Architect or Medieval Overhaul.

@purpleglade Planks can be made at a crafting spot. Once your first batch of planks are made via crafting spot and drying spot, you can craft a trestle and drying rack.

Just an fyi, the trestle requires planks... but you need the trestle to create planks. My guess is this is something that is supposed to use wood logs instead?

@Grave it is in progress right now. I wrote a patch and QQ is looking into it.

will there be log walls like in the previous mod?

@QOMRADEQUEER Looks good on my end, thank you

Is floor mod support like Flooring Floors in the future cards?

It would be awesome if there is a CE patch...

@Protoman44 Fixed the issue.

@Protoman44 This feels like it might be an oversight on my end, and will look into fixing it.

Is the Lost Tribe start supposed to start without the Woodworking research? I tried starting a new colony as one, but immediately got stuck (can't make planks because no Woodworking, can't research Woodworking because no research bench, can't make research bench because no planks)

Thank you for this amazing mod and hope to continue maintance...

@Alyfox Rosewood from VV - New Harvest.

The pink/violet wood in the second screenshot, which type is that?

@Lindsiria Sorry, I don't. Feel free to contact me on either the official Rimworld Discord or the fernworld Discord, though, at @QQ.

Do you have a github or anything? I have at least one idea for a patch that would be useful to many people.

@Grave Thank you for the bug reports. The noted issues have been fixed in the recent update.

I see. I'll check again but it was 75 logs becoming 2 fresh lumber that clued me into this today.
https://i.imgur.com/7TMkxc4.png
Also the north graphic for your version of the trestle is missing/not loaded

@Grave This is intended behaviour when MO is installed and follows MO's balance of 1 raw log being equivalent to two planks (or in this case, fresh lumber).

The bulk recipe was added to address this, in a similar style to MO's own bulk recipes. The bulk recipe should require 75 logs and produce 150 fresh lumber. If it isn't, that is an error.

Without MO, logs are processed in sets of 15. If you would like to add additional bulk recipes, you could use something like Make Your Bulk . Note that I haven't used the aforementioned mod, so I cannot speak for how well it works.

Yes, hooking into the butcher products/outputs code for non-animals works. This has been the primary method in use by Expanded Woodworking since the original A16 version. Medieval Overhaul also uses this method in its own log to plank production, as do various other mods for non-animal related needs.

removed all the mods. With only VEF, Syr, Regrowth. 15 logs get used to make 30 fresh lumber. Adding in Medieval Overhaul causes to to become 1 log to 2 fresh lumber as I've been experiencing. Fresh Lumber x150 recipe is only available while MO is loaded.

I recalled another recipe that works with any ingredient to output the ingredient's product, the Core game's Cut any Stone recipe, and it's all set up to work like your Fresh Lumber, and makes 20 blocks from 1 chunk. Wonder what's making me get 1 fresh lumber instead of 30

I'm just playing with regrowth now. yesterday I saw the fresh lumber recipe at the trestle was 1 log into 1 fresh lumber, whew, that's tedious. I wondered if 1 log should not work out into more than 1 lumber, or if 1 lumber is supposed to represent 1 stack of lumber.
Today, I see the fresh lumber x150 seems to only make 2 fresh lumber. I'm poking around in the xmls, and it appears you used a butchery process to determine their products, and the logs do have a section for butcher product. Is this working for you or do I have another conflict? Does this actually work for non-animals? Is this intended to give more fresh lumber with better skill?

@Late Yes. It supports any DLC combination.

Will this work without Odyssey?

This was what I was referring to. It seems you reverted unsupported trees dropping Deadwood and made them drop WoodLog as a backup plan along with stumps giving WoodLog as well. This isn't what I meant directly but it definitely works. This can help almost indefinitely and might actually be a better alternative than what Zaljerem handled when they were leading the mod.

@Grave The issue with VFEA should now be addressed. Let me know if you have any more trouble.

@Grave Yes-- I seem to have a bit of an issue with how I've set up some patches. This will take a little longer than I initially thought to address. For the time being, I am going to mark EW2 as requiring ReGrowth 2 and all DLC (as the issue affects DLC as well).

I dug into it and it appears the loaded xmlpatch for VE - Architect or MO have a patchoperation for Regrowth2's Elm. I haven't used regrowth since 1.6 release, but it looks like they all work together if I also add regrowth2 to the modlist.

new version, with either MO or architect loaded with VEF or SYR and Harmony as the only other mods all freshly redownloaded, the mod config resets to default during launch.
I get the same line before the log states it resets the mod list.
with Architect:
Caught exception while loading play data but there are active mods other than Core. Resetting mods config and trying again.
...
[Ref 76C44A88]
at RimWorld.StatWorker_MarketValue.CalculatedBaseMarketValue (Verse.BuildableDef def, Verse.ThingDef stuffDef) [0x000c5] in <24d25868955f4df08b02c73b55f389fe>:0
...
https://files.catbox.moe/s4l34z.txt

With MO:
Caught exception while loading play data but there are active mods other than Core. Resetting mods config and trying again.
...
[Ref 76C44A88]
at RimWorld.StatWorker_MarketValue.CalculatedBaseMarketValue (Verse.BuildableDef def, Verse.ThingDef stuffDef) [0x000c5] in <24d25868955f4df08b02c73b55f389fe>:0
...
https://files.catbox.moe/h3jteo.txt

pastebin had a KB limit.

@Grave Oh, I see. Something is looking for ReGrowth 2 when it shouldn't be. I'll get a hotfix out today. Thank you.!

@leifc This sounds like unintentional behaviour when using MO alongside EW2. To maintain MO balance, I assigned EW2 woodworking mechanics to the same research requirements as MO's lumber. Again, I do not play with MO, but it sounds like this was not the correct decision.

Without MO, EW2 woodworking is a neolithic tech.

This week I intend to figure out a good method for better integration regarding tech between EW2, EW2 and MO, EW2 and VFE Tribals, and then all three of them.

Thank you for your patience!

Is it intentional that making fresh lumber is only available after the medieval-level basic woodworking tech, including preventing lumber from being crafted at crafting spots until then?

It seems like making the crafting spot able to craft lumber all the time, or at least once Construction is researched with VFE Tribals loaded, makes for much smoother colony progression. I would also recommend moving the basic woodworking tech to neolithic, since mods like VFE Classical adds a lot of content to this level and it's both thematically appropriate and makes for smoother progression.

Thanks for your work on this!

I use a lot of ferny's mods, but have my own self-made progression mod pack. I guess I'll try.
I just fear that if there is no material to build rooms and tables with when unlucky with early research, the game might get really meh.

I mainly use this mod for the different wood colors, as only one wood type doesn't really allow decorating.

@-=GoW=-Dennis If it works as intended, I think so. I personally wanted something similar to the chunk to stone block progression, but with logs and lumber, and after messing around a lot with other mods and tweaking them with Resource Dict and RIMMSqol, I realised the best option was to just... do it myself.

That said, implementation probably isn't seamless atm, as some tech requirements might need adjustment with regards to VFE - Tribals. The problem is that a lot of those adjustments would be better suited to something like one of Ferny's progression mods rather than EW2 itself. The best option on my end might be to make a secondary addon/mod to address that.

Do you personally think that is "playable"? I play the solo wild man start (from Progression: Scenarios) and I find dealing with food to be sufficiently challenging for me (due to difficulty to acquire seeds from Progression: Agriculture), not sure how well I'd do with not being able to build things from wood until yet another research project (that I may not get, due to Semi Random Research). I do like the progression sense, but it just feels like I reached the comfortable chore / difficulty cap for myself. If you think otherwise, I'd be happy to hear :)

I still do have the old (no longer available on Steam) compatibility patch for Ocular wood, if you want it.

@-=GoW=-Dennis Currently Alpha Animals and/or Alpha Biomes are not supported. I know they are popular mods with a unique wood type, and I may add them onto the ever-growing compatibility list at a future point.

EW2 was made with VFE - Tribals in mind, actually. Though it may need some patches as I haven't gotten a chance to do a thorough playthrough. Ideally, with mods such as VFE - Tribals/Classical there should be enough log-based content to give animal start a progression from raw logs to lumber.

Learning to make mod options is also on the agenda as well, so maybe. Again, no promises.