any chance the compat issue can be fixed? right now the mods breaks if you go any size larger than vanilla with alpha biomes instaled

@pgames-food Sizes are determined at map generation but is then stored in the savefile. So you can add it mid-game but it won't change the existing savefile in any way. Also, I found that slightly larger than the maximum size the game allows is the sweet spot, especially if you have a strong computer.

the other question was this :)
after playing with default map sizes, im now kind of wishing that my main starting map base was bigger :) so that i can build up more defences, add more buildings from tons of mods, and make some large kill zones etc :)

but if there a particular size that seems to be a good match for not breaking the game (in terms of too big and lots of lag), which can still have lots of space to expand?

hi can i check a couple of things?

when the mod says this:
"This mod is safe to add mid-save (though it's rather pointless)"

would adding it mid-save, only then affect new generated maps like from quests?

I think I can confirm the Alpha Biomes thing. Maps load on any 'standard' size, but as soon as I enter a custom size, it crashes. After removing Alpha Biomes, a 400x400 map now generates properly. I had my player log read only to prevent bloat, so I don't have anything helpful to share.

so to be absolutely sure there is no advanced menu anymore in world map? the mod doesnt implement that?

ive got this with alpha biomes and it didnt stop any loading

Conflict with Alpha Biomes - Crashes at 90% Load

Love this mod! Reporting a conflict with the "Alpha Biomes" mod.

The Issue:

With both mods active, I can generate a world and go through character creation normally.

However, when starting the game, the map loading screen fails at 90% with an error.

The Fix:
Disabling only Alpha Biomes resolves the issue completely. The problem occurs specifically during the final stage of map loading.

Hope this info helps for future compatibility. Thank you for your work!

This makes the map preview on satelites change but then it generates the map with vanilla sizes. even changing mapsize and initialmapsize in the save doesnt work.

How can I use it with asteroids? they are so small

@Phooenix good lord how is your FPS with those giant map sizes when sped up?

@Chetwood from what I gather, the patch from VEF is optional and is only activated when some flag is enabled in the XML, I'm assuming that flag is enabled when Map Preview is also enabled, or by some other condition.

This reminder may be unnecessary, but the new size adjustment page is on the faction number settings page, not on the planetary map.I spent a long time checking my mod list for this，LOL

@Madara Uchiha glad to help for whatever my layman's probing is worth - if it helps, I noticed that Map Preview correctly accommodates Better Map Sizes but does not reflect the map modifers from Alpha Biomes in the preview window, which makes me suspect the two transpilers must be implemented substantially differently. Also, in my testing BMS + VEF worked fine, but BMS + VEF + AB broke consistently when BMS was set to 400x400 - even on tiles AB wasn't touching, and even with the mutators disabled in the settings, as if the second transpiler was always firing but not always doing anything. Hope this helps and thank you!

@Chetwood thank you for the detailed report and debugging! I'll look into what VEF does and see if it's inherently conflicting or if I can more intelligently detect the point I'm interested in to modify so they both work. I'll try to find the time to look at it over the weekend, no promises though.

@Chetwood, thank you for explaining that you ran into the same issue as me and explaining your fix. I wish this was easy as modding the old Red Alert .text files ages ago. Hopefully the main OP will come up with a fix sooner or later.

@Chetwood Oh my gosh, dear, thank you so much! 💖
I spent over 4 hours today uninstalling and reinstalling all kinds of mods, trying to figure out what was causing the issue. In the end, I could only confirm it was related to either MapPreview or Vanilla Expanded Framework. Since I don’t understand coding, I couldn’t find a real solution myself.

Thanks a lot for sharing this info — now I’ll see if I can try to fix it somehow… or just trust MadaraUchina to unleash his wisdom and solve it for us (lol).

@BlackWaterAquifer @猫与星象仪
I ran into the same issue. The issue in my mod list was VEF + Alpha Biomes.

Vanilla Expanded Framework (VEF) adds a second Harmony transpiler for the InitNewGame() function (as mentioned below) which conflicts with this mod. However, my game only starts to break when Alpha Biomes is also installed. Alpha Biomes adds three map modifiers for the Odyssey DLC which use the VEF code. It seems that as long as no other mod tries to use the code in VEF the game shouldn't break.

I got it "working" by using dnSpy to open up VFE.dll in VEF and delete the two methods under the "VEF.Maps.VanillaExpandedFramework_Game_InitNewGame_Patch" class. I also used the mod settings for Alpha Biomes to disable those three map modifiers. Now my game has a new red error on startup, but I can get past map generation.

To be clear: I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS! PROBABLY A BAD IDEA! But every time I launch Rimworld, I'm doing something I shouldn't be doing, so I did it anyways.

@Zencerd
I have my main colony at 1000x1000, and i wouldn't go further than this. It takes like 10-15 minutes to walk with a pawn across the map.

And i would lower it to like 400x400 later, so other areas load faster, unless you like waiting 6-7 minutes for the map to generate, and maybe having 600x600 in the rimcities settings.

Hello dear Madara Uchiha, thank you so much for making this mod! 💖
I’m really glad to see it updated to version 1.6! However, while using it I ran into the same issue as @BlackWaterAquifer — the map could not be generated. Because of the character limit, I can’t post the full error log here. Could you please let me know how I can provide it to you so that you can take a look at the problem?

Once again, thank you for everything you’ve done! 🙏
(Also, I’m sorry for using a translator.)

@MadaraUchina, thanks for the response. i had spent 2 hours pull mods out and in, and was just frustrated about crashing to main screen when trying to embark. I have used this mod as a stable for my custom games back in 1.5 with no errors whatsoever. I would have to attempt to play tons of games to see who the cluprit is. do you know an easier way to spot a potencial mod error in the beginning debug screen?

how big can i make the maps in this mod?

Thank you for your work. As you updated the main mod, I can discontinue the fork version. I just made a fork version with the mind to have it "just working", as I don't program in C# on a daily basis.

@BlackWaterAquifer, the only things this mod "destructively" touches is InitNewGame() and Dialog_AdvancedGameConfig (the map size and starting season selection dialog). If there's any other mod that touches those two places (the start of the game after finalizing your colonists, and the map size selection dialog), those are the suspects. Without your mod list it's impossible to tell, but I wouldn't expect a specific fix for this mod any time soon, this mod is very small and very simple.

hurrei \o/

I moved this mod to the top and then bottom of my load order, and it crashes on embark. I dont know how to export logs and my mod list is huge. thank you for 1.6 Op, i will wait until this plays better with my mod list.

@Sterydziak right now! Thanks for the patience. I released the 1.6 update a couple minutes ago, it should also resolve the bug introduced by the update (and not fixed in the fork) where the settings page superseded the world generation selection.

pings: @brady @NuJi @4Csongor4 @namoth @Skodalek @Snowdrop

When can we expect the mod to be updated to version 1.6?

Thank you for looking into updating this fantastic mod. Good luck!

Updating this mod to 1.6 appears to be more tricky than simply recompiling against the new version. I am looking into what's going on.

Here's a continued version for 1.6. https://steamproxy.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3522897843

pls 1.6

pls 1.6

any chance it be uppdated for 1.6 ? i like my mortars actually having some resonable space to counter siege across ^^

1.6pls！！！

Amazing must have mod. Very tragically incompatible with Alpha Biomes. Causes a crash on map generation.

Update: I have uploaded new version with fixed Advanced menu. My job here is done.

Update: I managed to get working advanced menu, but first I will confirm everything before release

Maybe in the future I will fix advanced menu, but first I need to get know API first

Also, as mentioned by Noverian, use mod settings instead of advanced menu

I made a fork with a fixed About.xml to show compatibility with the new version. Also, I bumped all libs versions.

https://steamproxy.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?edit=true&id=3522897843

Seems to work on 1.6, but you need to change the map size you want in the mod settings and not on the advanced settings when generating a planet.

Pls we need this mod to be compatible for 1.6

Is this going to work for 1.6? It seems to be generating a 250x250 even when I set it to larger. I need my *b i g m a p*

Hmm added this to my current game and it prevented the colony from rendering correctly. Most of the colony was grey and the lower left of the screen would appear while also flashing. Started a new colony to test that issue and it continued there to. This was in 1.5

Really hoping this gets patched and also working for 1.6

1.6 please？

@Thurnis Haley it is not.

Is this the mod that's added the plant density and animal density sliders underneath the map size slider when I click "Advanced" in the tile selection screen?

Im having an Issue with the custom map size input not showing on the menu when making a new colony, I assumed it was a mod conflict with RimCities custom map size but disabling it didnt work does anyone have any ideas? i dont have a log that crashes out when i open it so im lost of what it could be.

need this for 1.6 i wanna inject it into my veins!