they are my favorites I would like for them to get those Kislev grove buildings or something to remove corruption...

yeah what is up with that? I had to stop my campaign because it just felt like it was unfinished

I do agree with you guys, Bjornlings shouldn't spread Chaos, i wish i was able to change this myself in order to not give more work to the authors T_T

My recommendation for now is to enable console commands and start with a non chaos faction (perhaps nordland) and then force confederate the Bjornlings. From there you can add enough units over time by importing through the console with unit tags, for instance add two unit cards every 5 or 10 turns from the norscan troop trees. AU keys can be seen here https://www.honga.net/totalwar/warhammer3/faction.php?l=en&v=warhammer3
Tip. Make limits to your exploiting or you'll quickly be bored but I had a blast of a campaign doing essentially this. I chose Courrone and force confederated bjornling, baersonling and graeling immediately and then ceded those lands to kislev and nordland for diplomatic favor and transporting their armies to to the crusade.
Obviously any non chaos corruption faction could be a possible starting point. While you may want to create all norscan armies I felt like balancing it with native non chaos aligned troop trees was pretty fun but adding limited unit cards over time helped me preserve my own narrative better.

i believe this is sorta adressed under FAQ & KNOWN ISSUES.

"Q. Will you guys make Bjornling into a full-order faction?
A. No, they believe in Chaos Gods. make a submod or another mod."

Their intro flavor text also says they worship both chaos and the gods of men, which makes sense because this is how alot of Southern Norscans are in the lore.

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i believe this is sorta adressed under FAQ & KNOWN ISSUES.

"Q. Will you guys make Bjornling into a full-order faction?
A. No, they believe in Chaos Gods. make a submod or another mod."

Their intro flavor text also says they worship both chaos and the gods of men, which makes sense because this is how alot of Southern Norscans are in the lore.

But it messes up their gameplay

I've never really understood why authors/creators/devs get so stubborn on certain things. Last Epoch Devs adamantly refused to let us change the left and right mouse buttons for no reason, and I see this as one of those strange instances with the authors digging in their heels for no good reason.

There are a dozen new Norscan tribes, and they all spread corruption. Why not let the one faction that stands in the middle make a choice about whether they embrace corruption or not?

The Norscans by and large do not worship the Chaos gods directly, they worship their avatars. The Bjornlings could have access to multiple religious buildings that allow them to worship the Hound, Serpent, Crow, and Eagle alongside Shalia, Ursin, Ulric, and others without adding corruption.

It would be a great mechanic to either pick a 'side' or stay in the middle. Hell, even a submod would be great, it seems like a bunch of people want to play like this.

I am by no means a modder. BUT if anyone is looking to make a submod I have some ideas on how it may best be implemented.
Part of the issue with them is that by default alot of Norsca buildings spread corruption. There are some ways around this and some changes that could be made that I think would feel really good in lore and flavor.
Idea #1 Give the fervent Lord trait to their lords. The one them Empire has that kills corruption.
Idea #2 Since they already borrow alot Kislev, add the church building which nutralizes corruption, and add recruitment of some sort of priest hero which further mitigates corruption spreading.
Sub idea to #2 If As @saw it in a Pro Game Once suggested the sub mod author wanted to make it so that you have to pick a side, make it so that there is also a chaos church option to spread more corruption.
Idea #3 add the purge corruption commandment that empire has as a counter to the Venerate the 4 commandment.
It seems there are alot of ways to go in a submod that would allow them to either play more into the Chaos ideals or more into the gods of man or a mix of both. Allowing for maximum flexibility of play for anyone players who want to use them.

This would be great but implementing this sounds like a nightmare, so I totally understand why the author isn't interested. If anything, it feels like the best way is to start from scratch as a new race rather than a faction so that you don't have to deal with the default Norsca chaos mechanic. Either way, if someone is making a submod I'd love to find out

Would it be possible to remove or lessen the aversion the Bjornlings get from the order factions to make it possible to be a more order inclined Norsca faction? they can still play like regular chaos faction but with the option of making alliances with order or even just human factions

I mean, Chaos corrupts everything it touches and these guys live in Norsca. It fits thematically, and isn't that big a deal.

It'd be cool and unique to have a good-guy Norscan roster, but if you can't do that here, what's even the point? They're just like all the other Norscan factions and there's nothing unique about them besides fishing. If you can do a pro-Empire VC run, why can't we do a pro-Order Norscan run?

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It'd be cool and unique to have a good-guy Norscan roster, but if you can't do that here, what's even the point? They're just like all the other Norscan factions and there's nothing unique about them besides fishing. If you can do a pro-Empire VC run, why can't we do a pro-Order Norscan run?

You can still be good guys though, the fishing is key in that plus the other norscan factions won't like you.

By default if you play them right nordland and kislev will love you, then you can trade/fish with the others