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Immersive Concubinage: A Mechanical Overhaul
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Immersive Concubinage: A Mechanical Overhaul

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Description
This mod makes changes to concubines and their children so that they no longer have the samey status as spouses and their children. It does this by adding & changing traits and by blocking inheritance to varying degrees. It also adds liberation wars so you can free former spouses, as well as friends and acquaintances.


Background & Description
I finally got tired of the vanilla concubine mechanics and decided to make a mod fixing my issues with them. It began with fixing inheritance, since it made no sense to me that a child of a concubine by default could inherit at the expense of their fully legitimate siblings.

The new default is that children of concubines can only inherit if there exists no other preferable heir. This means that in most cases they'll only be able to inherit if there exists no legitimate male heir (more specifically, an heir of the dominating sex of a culture/faith). Much like bastards however, you can legitimize children of concubines so that they'll always inherit if they would have otherwise. This will of course come at the expense of any siblings that also are children of a concubine, making them unable to inherit unless they too are legitimized.

As for the concubines themselves, you can now make rulers into concubines (although not players). However, if an existing ruler is made into a concubine they'll be deposed and disinherited by virtue of being a concubine. As you might have already figured out, concubines are now by default completely blocked from title inheritance. They can however be elevated, increasing their status (read: reducing opinion penalties) and making them able to inherit titles that aren't dynastic. Additionally, children of elevated concubines are automatically legitimized.

Finally, there's now an alternative to paying ransoms, that is the new Demand Release interaction. This new interaction is basically an actionable threat. Currently if a demand is refused you automatically enter into a Liberation War, which if won will release all characters you have any relationship with at all. Except of course, rivals and nemesises, who'll instead be transferred to your dungeon. This new interaction also works with former spouses that have been forced into concubinage, making it possible to rescue/reclaim them. In the future I might make the interaction just unlock a casus belli if refused, instead of immediately starting a war.



Features
    Concubinage
  • Concubine trait is automatically assigned upon concubinage
  • [Elevated] Concubine trait, only automatically assigned for offered concubines if they're of the same dynasty as the ruler offering them.
  • [Disinherited] Child of Concubine trait is automatically assigned, depending on the culture/faith of the parent. See description for details.
  • [Legitimized] Child of Concubine trait, assigned through the Legitimize Child of Concubine interaction or by proxy through the Elevate Concubine interaction.

    Character Interactions
  • You can force rulers into concubinage if you have imprisoned them
  • You can force nuns/monks/devoted into concubinage if you have imprisoned them
  • You can request concubines from other rulers, using the Request Concubine interaction
  • You can offer a truce in exchange for a concubine, using the Request Truce Concubine interaction
  • You can negotiate a truce by offering a concubine, using the Offer Truce Concubine interaction
  • You can legitimize concubines with the Elevate Concubine interaction
  • You can legitimize children of concubines with the Legitimize Child of Concubine interaction
  • You can demand the release of anyone you can ransom + spouses forced into concubinage with the Demand Release interaction, refusal results in Liberation War

    Prison Interactions
  • Concubines of other rulers can be released from concubinage if imprisoned, using the Negotiate Release of Concubine interaction

    Casus Belli
  • Liberation War, currently only accessible through the Demand Release interaction. Releases every character with a relation to you (whom the Defender has imprisoned) upon victory. Rivals and Nemesises however are transferred to your dungeon.

    Miscellaneous
  • Raid capture chance is doubled for characters whose liege is the same as the raiding army, as well as for former spouses of the liege or the army commander.
Traits
    Concubine
  • Diplomacy: -1
  • Fertility: +10%
  • General Opinion: -10
  • Close Family Opinion: +10
  • May not inherit titles
  • Opinion of Concubine Characters: +10
  • Opinion of [Elevated] Concubine Characters: -10

    [Elevated] Concubine
  • Fertility: +15%
  • General Opinion: -5
  • Close Family Opinion: +5
  • Opinion of [Elevated] Concubine Characters: +5

    [Legitimized] Child of Concubine
  • Diplomacy: -1

    Child of Concubine
  • Diplomacy: -1

    [Disinherited] Child of Concubine
  • Diplomacy: -1
  • May not inherit titles



Known Issues
"It just works" ;)
  • Faulty logic
  • Historical succession was compromised
  • Concubine traits aren't removed upon marriage
  • Rulers forced into concubinage aren't moved to the Concubinist's court



Overwrites the following:

*can_become_concubine_of_character_trigger
*can_become_concubine_of_character_valid_trigger
*can_be_offered_as_concubine_to_character_trigger
*can_take_as_concubine_character_trigger
*concubine_offer_on_accept_effect
*ai_make_concubine_interaction
*raid_base_capture_chance




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󠁳⁧⁧ ‡ 24 Nov @ 9:50am 
Tested it a bit, and it seems to work for the most part. Only issue I found was that only female children born from a concubine would have the child of a concubine trait, while male children wouldn't. That was the only issue I noticed
cuomo860 23 Nov @ 9:12pm 
I keep it compatible through the Super Compatch which I will be updating soon.
HeirandtheSpare 22 Nov @ 9:32am 
No more updates? Oh, that sucks. I love this mod.
IAmCursedEX 30 Oct @ 5:32pm 
@ACE That is very unfortunate, I really like this mod hopefully you eventually have a change of heart and update it, or someone who knows how to mod makes their own updated version.
ACE  [author] 30 Oct @ 4:22pm 
@IAmCursedEX More or less correct, at least for the time being. Don't count on any official updates any time soon.
IAmCursedEX 30 Oct @ 3:01pm 
Would love if this got updated but I think the mod author has abandoned modding and moved onto greener pastures.
SalahadDin 29 Oct @ 7:46am 
I love this mod so much. Could the you update it to version 1.18?
Hawkspite 29 Oct @ 2:58am 
hi. thinking of downloading the mod for a new playthrough - does this mod allow a ruler to have polygamy through culture and concubines through faith?
Rebel 29 Sep @ 9:13pm 
update?
lilxancla2006 11 Sep @ 9:37am 
is it save game compatible?