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Black Mesa

BMCE Addon - Black Mesa Character Expansion Revised
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DWBoyGamer  [developer] 29 Nov, 2021 @ 6:33am
Read me before asking questions thank you!
Read me before asking questions thank you!

FIRST AND FOREMOST
•BMCE and BMCER are not the same thing. Despite BMCER using very large number of assets from BMCE, these are two very different mods being worked on by two bery different teams with very different goals.

•HECURE is not part of the official BMCER lore and you dont need it for the full experience. It is however officially endorsed by our team. The intended BMCER experience is BMCE, BMCER, HECUR, Chapter Overhauls and BMSC FAF/Power Up.

•Robogrunts will remain part of the intended BMCER experience and wont be removed. If you dont like them, tough luck.

ABOUT THE ART STYLE CHANGE
•The art style change that happened as part of the three years anniversary update was made in order to have BMCER feel more unique, to have it be something more than just BMCE addon. Its previous versions felt like slightly edited BMCE (which it effectively was and pretty much still is) which led to confusion among people and had some people believe BMCE and BMCER are one and the same mod. For these reasons we are not reverting to the original vanilla style BMCE is going for, if you dont like the new style then Im sorry but all we can tell you is to deal with it or go back to using original BMCE.

•This mod has been around long enough that it includes content I would not add nowadays. However since most of this content is at this point too iconic to be removed, they will only be improved upon in future updates.

ABOUT THE MORE COMPLEX INSTALLATION
•It is unfortunately impossible to make BMCER (Or BMCE for that matter) work just by subscribing. Reason for this is that some files (character_manifest.txt and global_actors.txt for example) vital to functionality of both BMCE and BMCER cannot be loaded directly from workshop, and as such require custom folder to function. There is nothing I can do about this, so please read installation instructions before installing this mod. If you refuse to read the instructions for any reason what so ever any errors caused by this on your end are not my problem.

•When installing, if BMCER files do not appear in your workshop files like they are supposed to, make sure this is the location where your Steam puts downloaded workshop files and recheck that you actually pressed subscribe. If you have trouble understanding where the mod files are located as explained by installation instructions them Im sorry but Im not able to provide their exact location on your PC. This is because it can differ depending in where on your PC you installed Steam/Black Mesa.

ABOUT BMCE STILL BEING A REQUIREMENT
•BMCER will require original BMCE to be installed for forseeable future. Even though making BMCER fully standalone would be easy with the sheer amount of content BMCER replaced from the original mod, we have chosen to not do this out of respect for the original BMCE to make people still download it too when using this.

ABOUT REPORTING BUGS
•Before reporting any bugs, please make sure that you are using latest patch of BMCE, BMCER and Chapter Overhaul mods/make sure you are using BMCE, BMCER and Chapter Overhauls in the first place. Chapter Overhauls are not strictly required, but are highly recommended for the intended experience. Also make sure you started new game when testing this mod, loading older saves may break things or at the very least lead to unintended character appearances.

•Before reporting character placements not matching the ones seen in screenshots make sure you are using Chapter Overhauls as well as latest version of this mod. Remember however, those screenshots do not always fully reflect current state of this mod anyway. If you are seeing characters with incorrect accessories/missing textures however make sure you have installed latest versions of both BMCE and BMCER correctly. If you are seeing HECU specifically with incorrect equipment, make sure you installed BMCE HECU version of BMCE instead of vanilla HECU version. Vanilla HECU version is not and will never be supported by BMCER officially.

•If you are experiencing issues with missing sounds try removing game_sounds_manifest.txt from script folder of this mod. Removing this file will however partially break Hazard Course support so you have been warned.

ABOUT FUNCTIONALILITY WITH OTHER MODS
•BMCER only properly supports original Black Mesa campaign, not Blue Shift, Azure Sheep or other similar campaign mods. We have no plans to make compatibility patches for any of these.

•Yes, BMCER is fully compatible with Chapter Overhaul mods, however it works just fine with BMSC, BMS:Revised and any other map replacements mods too, or even vanilla maps for that mapper if you choose to use those instead for some reason.

•BMCER is NOT compatible with any mods that also modify character manifest, like Face Creation Mod, HL1-Style Humans mod, Half-Life 1 like Helmet and Armor Hitbox on NPCs mod, any version of U.S. Military Early 2000s era mod or Crush Depth v1.5.

•Due to inclusion of female and robogrunt lines, BMCER is also not compatible with any mods that edit response rules

ABOUT IN-UNIVERSE LORE OF BMCER

•Yes, BMCER does in fact have official in-universe lore for its models. Read more about it from here.

•This lore, albeit intended, is not absolute by any means. We dont want to force anyone to accept it as part of their headcanon or strictly obey it when modding BMCER. However we may reserve the right to refuse support/endorsement for people/projects not adhering to it.

REJECTED IDEAS PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED BEFORE
Here is small list of ideas that have, at one point or another, either been suggested by people using BMCER (aka people outside the development team) or what we think might be suggested by people in the future. They are listed here to give people some pointers as what NOT to suggest.
- Reverting the art style change. We already explained why this isnt happening.
- Allowing female cafeteria workers, HECU pilots and survey team members to spawn randomly. We would love to have female cafeteria workers specifically to spawn randomly but for various reasons which I wont get in to here that isnt viable.
- Having BMCER be completely standalone. We would like to do this, but out of respect for the original mod we wont.
- Otherwise restoring olders versions of any of the models or textures. Why would we use outdated and objectively inferior versions of anything?
- Replacing any models/textures with their BMBS versions, such as Otis, maintenance workers or scientist shirt/pants
- Additional HECU variants. These arent completely off the table for future update but they also arent in active development so kindly dont suggest them.
- Bulletproof vests/helmet/armor for guards. Entirely doable just not worth it
- Janitors, we already have custodians
- Male Black Ops. Same case as with additional HECU variants, they arent completely off the table but they arent actively being worked on either.
- Alternative hanging from neck ID card design
- Official Garry's Mod port by us. We wouldnt mind making ragdoll pack of BMCER for Gmod but we have no interested in official playermodel or SNPC pack which we know is what people would prefer. We do however offically endorse Pyri's Gmod port of BMCER
- Anything that heavily interferes with the already established lore of Half Life and/or BMCER itself
- Have ID cards change accordingly with the face texture. Not impossible, but really not worth the effort.
- Any kind of "lite" or alternative versions of this mod. If you dont like some aspect of this mod and we have stated it wont be changed, feel free to change it by yourself.
- Outright removal of any feature of this mod. We dont mind reworking models, we do that all the time, but outright removal of any model is not planned.
- Additional zombie variants and official map replacements. Both are planned, we are just tired of hearing about them constantly.
- "Realistic research facility security force" in topside areas. These guys already exist in form of DOE security HECU. We realise they might not be what people expected, but they are all you are gonna get.
- Removal/replacement of female guard lines since they use AI. We would love to replace these lines with ones done by proper voiceactor but we dont really want to pay for it. Either deal with it or get us a decent voiceactor who is willing to work for free and knows how to deal with lip synching.
- Removal of Extended Captions and Dialogue mod integration. This is strictly not planned.
- You-know-what jigglebone physics for Black Ops Assassin. Because of their lore accuracy we would like to implement subtle version of this, however for obvious reasons we wont.
- changing the holstered guard Glock to any other pistol. This would not be worth it for us so its not happening.
- Regular female scientists with skirts. Really not needed.
- Security guards robogrunts. This was briefly considered but they wouldnt really have any proper placements allowing for unique lines to work plus I dont think Black Mesa would use Apertures robots for security duties anyway.
Last edited by DWBoyGamer; 18 Dec, 2024 @ 6:31am
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Matthew 15 Feb, 2022 @ 3:22pm 
Why tf my shotgunners holding MP5's like shotguns? lol
DWBoyGamer  [developer] 15 Feb, 2022 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by Comedy Central Dude:
Why tf my shotgunners holding MP5's like shotguns? lol
This mod doesnt replace HECU models (BMCE does though) so not my fault.
Matthew 17 Feb, 2022 @ 4:37pm 
Originally posted by DWBoyGamer:
Originally posted by Comedy Central Dude:
Why tf my shotgunners holding MP5's like shotguns? lol
This mod doesnt replace HECU models (BMCE does though) so not my fault.
Ahh okay, thx.
MaximumLawmanX 25 Feb, 2022 @ 10:13am 
The personnel id's dont seem to match the people im looking at is there anything i can do to fix it?
DWBoyGamer  [developer] 25 Feb, 2022 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by MaximumLawmanX:
The personnel id's dont seem to match the people im looking at is there anything i can do to fix it?
Not a bug. Because of material limit its impossible to make it happen.
MaximumLawmanX 25 Feb, 2022 @ 12:00pm 
oh thanks didnt realize
mrheadcrab123 20 Jun, 2022 @ 1:42pm 
dose this conflict with bmce oringal?
mrheadcrab123 20 Jun, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
i need help, when getting into the game, everyone except for the guards have missing textures, can i have some help with this? i have ronikas hecu and i think it might be a hecu misc problem, but im affriad to instal the hecu misc file, an i dont even know where to get it, can i have some help?
mrheadcrab123 20 Jun, 2022 @ 2:09pm 
i deleted the bmce files that wernt vpk, it fixed some things, but some ties, hats, and other parts of clothing were missing textures, im trying to fix it, but i will coment agian if i fix it
DWBoyGamer  [developer] 20 Jun, 2022 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by mrheadcrab123:
i need help, when getting into the game, everyone except for the guards have missing textures, can i have some help with this? i have ronikas hecu and i think it might be a hecu misc problem, but im affriad to instal the hecu misc file, an i dont even know where to get it, can i have some help?
Sounds like you didnt read installation instructions. Also BMCE Romka HECU has not been updated (as of writing this) to support latest BMCE update so by extension it isnt fully compatible with BMCER either.
classic gamer 27 Jul, 2022 @ 4:34pm 
Can I just unsub from all these mods after installing them manually. I know it doesn't say to do so but every other mod still works. I just wanted to know becouse the instalation instruction said something about no removeing defoult bmce files.
classic gamer 27 Jul, 2022 @ 4:36pm 
anyways the mod was installed successfully and instructions where easy to follow if you where wondering.
DWBoyGamer  [developer] 27 Jul, 2022 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by jakestritty:
Can I just unsub from all these mods after installing them manually. I know it doesn't say to do so but every other mod still works. I just wanted to know becouse the instalation instruction said something about no removeing defoult bmce files.
If everything is working correctly then yes you can unsubscribe from these.
Seddy 12 Aug, 2022 @ 6:07am 
almost every thing i s i see are errors why
DWBoyGamer  [developer] 12 Aug, 2022 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh is a guy:
almost every thing i s i see are errors why
Sounds like you didnt follow the instructions correctly
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