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best mod of 2023 goes too.... EMBRASURES

ahahahaha

@Hoboman - dang it was only updated 6 years ago, should still be good.

The graphics are way outdated, my granite embrasures look like they're built with a different material.

I love the way these look but the mod hasn't been touched since 2016. I would love a 1.0 update.

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This mod is still working in B18 :)

Id assume idk tho

Does this work with A17?

Can you update it for A17?

Does this work with A17?

Just tested this with A16 and it seems to work just fine
http://steamproxy.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=869980960

thats a vanilla thing, if you line chunks up they do the same, this is how passability works now. Its to simulate them climbing up, they slow getting "down" as well.

Any chance for a update on this? I tried updating and made it work, and also tried adding passability, but if I place a 3 thick layer, pawns pass trough really slow over the first layer, but the next 2 layers they pass trough at normal speed, this something that can be fixed? Also tried adding pathcost at 999 but does not seem to differ from 300.

a16?

Seems to work fine with A15 as is.

A15? Probably busy with the other mods I assueme?

a15? will it still work?

So in order to get enemies to shoot at colonists hiding behind embrasures, there needs to be a path that can lead to them without any obstruction?

Okay, so that means melee raiders will be still be able to reach colonists like normal, but at least they're not gonna get mowed down instantly by missiles and grenades on account of the embrasures. I'm fine with that.

Pizzarugi, it has something to do with raider pawns having a blocked path to the target they need to hit, thus they will rarely target pawns on the other side without a clear path. or somethng like that hah.

I just had a friend test the embrasures (his first time with the mod) and he found out none of the enemies were trying to shoot through it in order to attack the test colonist.

The colonist was given heavy armor and the best weapon, he was set to fight against a large raid. When they attacked, the gunners didn't bother trying to shoot back and instead followed the melee enemies towards the door to break it down.

Are we missing something?

Been playing a bunker with these embrasures this week. My enemy pawns have rarely had problems hitting through these. My own pawns occasionally hit the embrasure, damaging it, when firing from within from a distance (a few squares away from the embrasure), and I lost a pawn to Scythers firing past the embrasure at their maximum range.

In the long-term, these don't seem OP. After I slaughtered a few villager raids (clubs, bows, etc.) Cassandra stopped sending those. She started preferring to infest me bugs, or raid me with pirates or mechanoids. She sent Orion Corp. with a tank before I had built turrets or mortars (I'm heavily research locked, playing tribal). We died. :P

so you expect a pawn to shoot through 2 cells of 0.99 coverage....select your firing pawn, pause the game, hover your mouse over the enemy at the wall, what does the tooltip tell you is the accuracy for this shot.

and yes their firing skills were honed and I tested with high accuracy weps eg assault rifles and sniper rifles

Not sure what's going on in my game, can't believe no one is reporting this. Embrasures are just plain broke for me, I made a bunker with 2 tiles of embrasure, then shield for my guys to take cover behind, they shoot the baddies but as soon as they make it to an embrasure they can't be hit, my guys fire at them but either hit the embrasure the baddie is attacking or miss completely. Have tested on 3 different colonies. Not sure but it's a consistent behaviour I'm seeing

I've built bunkers to take care fallen psychicha nd poison ships. I havae walled off my compound with embrasure walls 2 thick and double plasteel doors. I have been attacked by a warg manhunter pack that had literally over 20 wargs. None were able to get inside even though my turrets were shooting them from behind the embrasures.

I did notice however, that raiders more often than not shoot through embrasures or try to path through the doors. But Melee raiders just seem to mill around like idiots or to draw fire.

Following on solo's comment, a note/reminder to Skullywag: the path-finding for resolving an enemy pawn's line-of-sight (can I shoot at that) through embrasures was one of the pre-A14 things that NIA claimed to solve in Combat Realism. Did A14 break that again?

How does this affect balance? I was looking at another embrasure mod that people said was very OP.

I was thinking maybe setting the embrasures as a two distant unit entity, taking up 2 spacing, making the second space according to Jikoli, having high movement resistance, and the second being like the sandbags.

you can set the pathcost, may be thats the answer. Ill take a note to try that out.

then wouldn't it make sense to have ebrasures just have an arbitrarily high movement resistance?

yes just make them passthroughonly in the passability, this denotes pawns may walk over them but cannot stop on them.

Is it possible to specify the embrasures to act like sandbags(more hp etc) and not walls in the .txt?

yeah randomly the bestattacktarget method needs the shooter to be able to reach the pawn (path to him) to be able to open fire.

The raiders only seem to target behind the embrasures after the initial door is broken down, after that the raiders can actually hit the pawns.

Currently it is a little stressful but we are used to it around release times.

Ok so it looks like I have to detour bestattacktarget method to make this work, thisll make this mod about 50 times the size but hey it has to work, right? so yeah leave it with me I have a solution.

Thank You and Keep up the good work, enjoyed all your collections as well as Combat Realism, hoping everything isnt too stressfull for the modders.

ok so that is an issue, this used to work, It was always OP anyway this is why they were never added to the main game, but it only ever made melee and animal insanity events a little trivial, not raids. Let me look into it.

Hello Skully, but the raiders dont seem to be interested in shooting back when you are in them at all. Makes it too overpowered.

Cool thanks, will do.

They should be able to shoot back and have in other alphas, let me know if they dont and ill look into it.

Hey, do enemies shoot at you on the other side but have a lower chance to hit? I'm having the problem with anouther similar mod that your people are just ignored. It all seems rather OP to me, just standing on the other side shooting at someone who's bashing the door.