This mod is cool and all but the fact that you can't trade with orbital traders unless you know their language kinda ruins it for me. Trade has gone on for thousands of years despite language barriers, and you're telling me that a space-travel capable people don't have a way to trade with my similarly technologically advanced colony unless we have a shared language? Portuguese traders managed to trade in Asia when the majority of the world couldn't yet read and neither side knew each other's languages, but my people communicating with a trader ship in orbit have no way to figure out trade without a shared language? Can't forward me a cargo manifest to work from?

Love this mod, but it would be nice for an alert to pop up when you've completed learning a language. I've had a few times where I've had prisoners held for longer than I would have liked cuz I thought we were still learning their language, only to find that we finished it ages ago and I've been wasting time and resources on them since.

It feels incredibly silly to me that there's no friendly way to learn a language. You'd think I could just comms them to shoot me a language textbook for a few hundred silver or so but apparently the Rim doesn't do languages that way.

The mod is working, but the icon isn't showing up in the right hand collection of icons. The regular ones are present (fertility overview, zone visibility,...) but the language icon isn't present. Any tips on how I could resolve this?

Mod is good and adds more challenge, but I think the inability to trade until language is fully learned is a bit too much? Maybe trade should've been re-renabled if lamguage is learned at least 50% progress. Otherwise, I so far enjoy this mod.

sometimes rimworld needs a bit of difficulty in places other than raids, plus i like how it integrates itself logically as not everyone would use a standar language across the entire world, it's not micro intensive either, so it isn't tedious to get around (except for the intended mechanic of screwing over your trade deals)

Why would someone want to play with this mod? It's frustrating... Especially playing as factions that hate learning languages. It basically functions to slow down advanced component aquisition even further by gimping the comms console.

Okay so. If you want to kearn traders language just buy a slave relative to traders faction!

how to learn language of orbital station or imperia without war with the last

@Grave
this mod prevent to rescue all pawns who you still not learn their languages (it show as unwavering loyal)
you need to capture and learn their languages after that unwavering will gone
btw, you need to pick high social prisoner too, low social will have very low or 0 xp when learning they language

Im not sure if im just being stupid or not but im unable to learn the language or even communicate with space traders?? theres no way for me to meet them face to face and learn their language

If I rescue someone with a different language I don't know, does this prevent their rescuee joiner event from happening?

One suggestion I thought of for passively learning languages would be compatibility with Chatting on Comms (the standalone mod and the Tweaks Galore option to enable this) to progress either a random or specific language or dialect during recration.

Is there a way to choose who is alien as well? Also, saving would be great. I love this mod.

Great mod, would be cool to have a feature to save languages though so you don't have to go through every time when you start a new game.

An option for saving presets based on available factions (and also discerning certain xenotypes) would be nice

Yep, after playing much with this mod, i can say: we need more learning options. Books and prisoners is not enough, especially in the beginning of the game. It would be better to learn language (at least a bit) from trading, rescueing, visiting other cities, meeting caravans, etc.

@Monkey Magic

I'm well aware that prisoners are the best way to learn, I'm just suggesting that there be a way to learn a language for friendly factions (theres no real reason to learn languages and dialects of permanantly hostile factions) that wont upset them, and for some factions its just impossible to learn their language without books or a gravship see: the basegame orbital trade corp

@JackFromShadow Thank you for clear answer!

@kyrambox Nope, trade doesn't add anything into learning faction language. But any other interactions is. Theoretically, you could just lock some character in the zone with traders and learn their language from chatting with caravan, but it is easier to just buy slaves of that faction (maybe even from that faction itself), imprison it and learn language from prisoner.

I trade a lot, but both progress of language and progress of dialect are always 0. Am i wrong or trade does not increases leanrning progress of faction language?

@WillowTheWisp and @Misterdino Prime - Check the mod settings, they probably got changed somehow, which is why your wardens appear to be taking forever to learn a language.

@Comradebusman3 - as JackFromShadow mentioned, it is possible to unsub, and resub and populate new factions with languages, but this will reset your progress to 0%.

@BlizTheSquishy - Capturing a hostile to learn the base language is the better option currently, and if you want a hostile Empire without pissing off the Royalty one; there's my Fractured Empire mod. For existing saves, use it with my Syndicate Language Patch

@JackFromSHadow - A temporary solution would be to set the learn rate to insanely easy in the mod settings to catch back up after adding a faction, but one would have to language books, or catch new prisoners though

Thank you for this mod Cybranian.
Could you please add an option to generate language for a faction during the game? I too use faction (re)discovery from Vanilla Expanded and newly generated factions doesn't have language. Sure, it is possible to unsubscribe to this mod and then subscribe again, but the colony had to relearn all languages again after that.
Also, could you add a message after the colony learned language from prisoners or book so the player could know he could now sell books and use prisoners for something else?

Dear Cybranian, thank you for this beautiful mod! It adds so much depth to roleplaying! Though, I have one suggestion:

Can you make it so that if a pawn of a different faction chooses to join yours and you don't know their language yet, that you automatically learn it afterwards?

Instantly or over the course of say a Quadrum? As it would be more immersive!

Thanks again!

Having a way to learn a language of a friendly faction be easier would be nice, either through them likely on the map (even if its just slow progress) or some events, cause books arent always read, especially late game when you have a large amount of rec types, or have many books

It'd be nice to be able to use devmode or something of the like to quickly access the world start language settings during a game, specifically for those of us with faction discovery. I realized part way through a medieval fantasy playthrough that I forgot a couple factions and had to add them, but I want them to have their specific languages and dialects

@WillowTheWisp happened the same, it seems you need to learn for good time his language before truly see the progress, idk why

I've noticed that there's no language progress when I talk to prisoners recently. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the mod, and gave it a shot on a brand new 1.6 save file. Any thoughts what could be going on?

**PLEASE BE AWARE**

The recent patch potentially breaks saves that include this mod. Make sure you back your save before loading and saving again. Saves affected are those with some progress in language learning, those without any progress should still be fine, but make sure you still backup.

Test loading and saving a few times before committing. If you see the graphic display error (or get red error reports, reboot and start over. This may be an issue with old Rimworld files still loaded maybe. It appears to have resolved itself after a reboot for me.

Any chance to have languages set up saved? To be loaded for other playthroughs?

Yall you can select learn language on prisoners of faction just capture ppl who know the language you want. If you dont like that orbital traders or friendly faction make that hard then you can always make them share a dialect/language with someone else who you can capture

I was asking if there could be an alternative way to learning a language dialect, other than books?

what?

I am having real difficulty with orbital traders. Perhaps you could work in some sort of comms console add-on to auto-translate?

would it be possible to earn some experience in a langauges dialect whenever you trade with the corresponding factions caravans?

Great mod for scamming yourself in trades to manage wealth better lol (I know about mod settings)

Wild people just grunt

Wild people dont speak a language

Random Factions seems to not work correctly. Placeholder factions are still shown in the faction tab after game start with the language assigned, to them, but real factions do not have one.

theres some way to see what languages talks a pawn in rim hud?

Compatibility with speakup?

Updated. Added missing translation keys for English. Do not attempt to load 1.5 saves on 1.6 with this mod. At the very least, disable this mod first. After that, save the game and then install the mod. This will reset your languages and progress, but you will be able to use your old 1.5 save on 1.6. Honestly, this is a fundamentally bad idea, but if you so desire.

@JunoCat運富 and @Arky - social interaction is supposed to contribute to learning a language -in theory this includes visitor chatting, and trades, but I've yet to see this work in practice. Would be nice if language could be learned from rescue(for example escape pods, or visitors who get unlucky with the wildlife) but implementing this could be tricky.

@Osrek - it's by faction, so you can just check the faction tab, it will show the completion ratio there for each language.

@Inquisiiton Time - One can change the names by clicking on them in the faction screen. As for adding new faction languages, this is not possible in of itself, but there is a workaround. Disable the mod and save, add Vanilla Framework for it's faction discovery, add Rim Languages back and the new factions will be assigned a languages along with the others {VF can be removed after saving again if preferred). You'll lose any previous progress though.

Wow. This looks crazy good. I can't wait to try this out.

Ah, so it does! Thanks, sorry I missed that.

Have you given any thought into tying it to each pawn as a version 2?

"Language is tied to a faction, not a specific pawn. Learning a new language applies to your entire colony." - mod description

Question:
It seems like knowledge of a dialect or language is shared among my entire faction - not specific to pawns.
Ex: If Bob in my colony gets enough experience learning Cutthroatese, then Mary the Mute Bloodbank in my colony also learned it despite never seeing daylight. Is that correct?

Is there any debug to set up languages in the middle of a game? to see if it can work with the vanilla faction discovery feature.

This could benefit from integration with RimQuest. Currently there are no issues just talking to quest givers arriving with caravans, which feels weird.

It would also be nice if there were better ways to learn languages from passing caravans.

Great mod, except that learning a language is not natural since we cannot interact with random settlements. So we have to essentially anger someone to learn their language by imprisoning their people. That, or books. If the mod had an option like "stay on this colony as a tourist to learn the language" it would be better. Or if trading improved language learning.