Portal 2
Fleetingness #3: Pandemonium
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Lennektro 3月24日 9時03分 
Absolutely amazing and beautiful logic. It took me roughly 3 and a half hours to beat this map. Each step and each move and constellation is excellently thought out. I would be interested in how long it took you to come up with this.
Leo  [作成者] 1月28日 9時57分 
@mentallentil
Heeey, you made it! That's quite an impressive feat, well done!
mentallentil 1月22日 14時58分 
Took me a solid 3 hours, faved :love_seagull:
SpielSatzFail 2023年9月11日 14時53分 
I didn't confuse the futbols most of the time, and once I did, I created a quicksave and destroyed one or pushed a button to see where it came from ^^
I'm gonna push another button now, and it's called "favourite" :-)
Leo  [作成者] 2023年9月11日 10時12分 
@SpielSatzFail
I'm very happy to hear you enjoyed the experience, even though such a convoluted map inevitably causes some frustration during the solving process and requires some mental fortitude. In those times, it helps a lot to take a break, like you did. I hope you didn't lose track of the futbols too often, I do wish there was a way to colourize them just like cubes! Anyway congratulations for beating them, that's no small feat and it shows you have great determination... and patience! That's the kind of map I'm not sure I'd be able to solve, if I hadn't made it myself! XD
SpielSatzFail 2023年9月9日 8時16分 
I tamed the beast ^^ Never did I play a map before in which I wished for two or three quicksave slots XD
I was in for three hours (first session) and tried a lot of stuff with only little progress. Most of the time I was looking what was IMpossible to find the possible things ;-) ... I was getting out of ideas and took a break, fearing that what I had accomplished was only half the story or less. Turns out that in my second session I was done after an additional 40 minutes! Man was I glad. Very rewarding finale woo-hoo!
The map shows the ending move pretty clearly so I was sure it was necessary to get both items out of the left room . This basically began at my three hour mark, the rest was plain sailing, surprisingly.
After a frustrating start which made me lose faith in myself, the map turned out to be pretty enjoyable. It's a thumbs up and even close to a favourite (the jurors in my head have yet to decide ;-)
Btw I'm fine with the 8/10 difficulty rating.
Leo  [作成者] 2023年6月13日 7時41分 
@NLuziaf
I get your point, but on the other hand, playing a series in order seems like the logical thing to do. I won't deny this is still a monstrosity, however! Glad you enjoyed it anyway, and sorry but I have no idea what playlist this is :P
NLuziaf 2022年9月7日 20時57分 
My honest review:

This chamber is a monstrosity, why? Because this chamber requires me to play the previous "Fleetingness series" chambers to JUST get some basics to the puzzle, which will take me more time if I haven't played it yet.

Overall, this chamber is a very great chamber (to make streamers suffer /jk) and I favourited it.
I'm coming from "Brainfucc: THE PLAYLIST".
Leo  [作成者] 2022年5月5日 9時50分 
@Mr Fab
Thanks for the nice words, and congrats on solving this beast! I saw you played it live, shame that I missed it, I followed your Twitch channel so hopefully I'll catch one of your streams some day!
Thank you also for uploading it to YT, I'll watch it when I have the time :)
Mr Fab 2022年5月5日 6時47分 
Oh boy that was hard ! I didn't do everything the intended way too.

But I loved it, the moves are smart, the design is pretty and it was so satisfying to beat the puzzle

Big :steamthumbsup: and favorited !

My long blind playthrough : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZoDfAUs2II
Leo  [作成者] 2021年6月21日 12時28分 
@Aneonen
Thank you for playing and for the extensive feedback! Subtle puzzle states are often what make hard puzzles such a challenging task, and this one is no exception. Indeed there is some leeway in the solution and I'm fine with that. Great job solving the whole thing!
Aneonen 2021年6月19日 22時37分 
Great puzzle! I trusted the description, but I was still surprised with the amount of complexity squeezed out of this setup, in particular with the cyclical movements needed to slowly approach a sufficiently nice state. These positions were a bit delicate, but that made them exciting.

Although I think that I'd normally dislike how limited visibility is between the two major regions of the map, I enjoyed the visual consistency with Fleetingness #2, as if it had been embedded into its successor. In general, the thematic consistency of the moves in this series was quite nice.

I performed the solution slightly differently than listed, (in particular, I rearranged my portals nicely before performing the move to collect the second futbol for the last time instead of after, which meant that the final cube setup was reversed. ) but kept with its spirit.
Leo  [作成者] 2021年6月13日 11時47分 
@Omega
Thank you for the videos! I believe you unnecessarily repeated some steps in a couple of places, but all the moves from the intended solution are there so it's all good. Congrats for solving this challenging puzzle!
Omega 2021年5月30日 9時03分 
Leo  [作成者] 2020年9月5日 13時18分 
@Spider_Dawg
This type of very challenging map isn't for everyone, so no problem. Still thanks for giving it a try!
@klaus.sfc01
Thank you very much for the praised, and congrats on solving it!
klaus.sfc01 2020年9月5日 5時32分 
finally solved it. it is so awesome i can't even describe it
Spider_Dawg 2020年6月22日 15時08分 
Awesome puzzle, but no, I did not have the patience to explore all 65,536 possible scenarios. On another note, I did come across a stuck-up piston lift glitch twice while playing this Fleetingness series: Stuck-up piston
Leo  [作成者] 2020年5月30日 2時23分 
@FROYO shade
Thanks a lot for playing and for the video! It was fun to watch. You're right that your move at 6:13 is not intended, and it's a bit of a shame as it allows to bypass what I'd consider to be the most interesting steps. Also the move at 4:38 where you throw the futbol up, place a portal and grab the futbol isn't intended either. I thought the ceiling was low enough to prevent it, but I guess not. I'll have to fix it. If you're interested to know the whole intended solution, there's a link at the end of the description :)
Alric 2020年5月29日 9時57分 
Brilliant puzzle! Took me a bit over 2 hours to solve without any hints and with some extra thinking while outside. The atmosphere is intimidating, and the music fits it well. Liked & favourited!

Video of my solution: https://youtu.be/hyzwaGm0Szc
I have a feeling I did an unintended move at 6:13, yet it didn't feel difficult to pull off.
And I apologise for the crappy quality, but my computer can't handle much :D



Leo  [作成者] 2020年4月10日 7時28分 
@Spacekitty
Yeah I think it's safe to say that this is my hardest map to date. Very well done solving it! I'm glad you enjoyed the journey and felt satisfied reaching the end. Thank you!
SpKi 2020年4月10日 1時24分 
Wow this was tough, but Im happy to say that after a LOT of time thinking about this, I finally managed to finish it. I was quite scared going into this considering this was your first map that had a 8/10 difficulty rating, and sure enough, the solution is very long and complex but figuring it out felt very satisfying. A definite favorite for sure. Great job!
Leo  [作成者] 2020年4月5日 10時23分 
@asears16
Well I'd say less than 2 hours is a pretty good time! Thanks for playing and for the video :)
asears16 2020年4月4日 14時29分 
Fantastic logic puzzle, Leo...I quite enjoyed it. It was quite tricky for me, as it took me over almost two hours in total to solve.

Blind run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoFNH85MZGU
Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月22日 4時05分 
@Mikeastro
Thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed solving it! I'm still in the process of watching your blind run ;)
Mikeastro 2020年3月21日 7時38分 
Outstandingly clever map - added to favourites. My blind run.
Dark Rozen 2020年3月18日 13時40分 
Yeah, I had that too. It's really satisfying to watch.
Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月18日 12時03分 
@jandlml
Great job! Your tenacity is truly impressive. I believe the glitch you describe is the same as shown in this video by Narkodes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETp8VogFei0
It's really weird, I'm pretty sure with some previous versions of BEE, that thing didn't happen. Anyway thanks a lot for playing and for the fav :)
lapicidas 2020年3月17日 22時49分 
@jandlml great :steamhappy:
jandlml 2020年3月17日 22時40分 
yeah!! i got it, if i had stuck with my first instincts i would have finished an hour ago. great map!! faved. thanks for the patience :steamhappy:
jandlml 2020年3月17日 21時28分 
i guess that was the wrong move haha
jandlml 2020年3月17日 21時27分 
haha i wish i knew how to take videos correctly, i broke the map its kind of funny. i put the first futbol in the second futbols receptacle and hit the respawn. well it definitely didnt like that. it keeps respawning over and over again. there is broken futbol all over the place. lol
jandlml 2020年3月17日 21時08分 
well now i have them all in the wrong room lol https://steamproxy.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2025971269
jandlml 2020年3月17日 20時28分 
oh boy, i thought oh wow i got it, i made it all the way to the first room with both cubes then i realized i needed both futbols too. i was so excited. now i have to go back, i hate not knowing where i can save. shoot
Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月17日 13時42分 
@Narkodes
Thanks, happy you enjoyed this little quickie!
@Joric
Excellent work! The timestamps are are well chosen as well
Joric 2020年3月17日 7時52分 
Update 3, 10 minutes: https://youtu.be/qCnjX3pbtMA semi-official with timings.
Narkodes 2020年3月17日 5時53分 
Nice easy map by the way!
Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月17日 4時09分 
@Joric
Impressive explanation, however I don't think that's very useful given that you already linked a video... Also I reckon jandlml probably doesn't want the full solution, but rather hints to know how to move forward.
@jandlml
You are right to assume that your 1st screenshot isn't right. As you said, leaving the CC on the yellow button prevents you from connecting the two rooms, and that's a problem. But your 2nd screenshot looks promising! And yeah it's a shame we're in such different timezones :/
Joric 2020年3月16日 23時51分 
3. Bring CF to 1st room:
3.1 Fling up to the bridge, grab RF, bring RF to 2nd room (upper holder)
3.2 Put CC on RB, put RF into lower holder, connect rooms
3.3 Goto 2nd room (via portal), CC to RB, goto 1st room (via portal)
3.4 Shoot 2 portals in 1st room, fling into hallway, go 2nd room
3.5 Break RF, stand on YB, portal back, bring RC to 2nd room
3.6 RC on YB, juggle yourself to RF, bring RF to 2nd room
3.7 STACK CUBES ON YB (CC on top), break RF, quickly go to PB room, set portal
3.8 BRING CF INTO 1st ROOM (via portal), throw into backup holder. (Almost done!)


4. Ending:
4.1. PUT CC onto RB in the 2nd room, get back to 1st room (via portals)
4.2. Respawn RC, put on RB, get CF, put into Bridge holder, fling RC to hallway, 2nd room
4.3. Press YB, portal to bridge, respawn RC with PB, bring RC to 2nd room, bring CC to 1st room
4.4. Respawn RC. STACK CUBES ON RB (CC on top), get RF, exit

Joric 2020年3月16日 21時17分 
Complete walkthrough as text, specially for @jandlml:

RC/CC - Regular/Companion Cubes, RF/CF - RC/CC futbols, RH/CH - RC/CC holders,
BB/YB/RB/PB - Blue/Yellow/Red/Pedestal buttons

1. Enter 2nd room:
1.1 RC to Stairs
1.2 RF to Light Bridge Holder
1.3. Fling RC into mid room, RC to Laser Grid, enter 2nd room


2. Connect rooms:
2.1 CC to YB, portal in CC PB room, press PB
2.2. CC to RB, portal under Piston, jump from CC via portals to Piston
2.4. Grab CC Futbol, put in holder
2.5. CC to YB, climb stairs, set portals, break Futbol, jump out
2.6. RC to RB, portal under the bridge

jandlml 2020年3月16日 19時51分 
its so hard that we are all on different times. i hate having to wait an entire day in getting a reply. lol
jandlml 2020年3月16日 19時50分 
how about this? https://steamproxy.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2024923775 i have the other cube up there on the button so i can get back up there ,but i cant keep a connection from this area to the other. wow great map!
jandlml 2020年3月16日 19時13分 
jandlml 2020年3月16日 19時08分 
ugg i think i know what the solution is but i still cant get the ccube into the first room. i came out of the second room with the cube on the portal gun button. is that right ? but in doing that i loose my connection to that room ugg
jandlml 2020年3月16日 17時50分 
thanks i keep trying

Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月16日 7時11分 
@Narkodes
Wtffff lol. Futbols are so broken!
@Joric
I added a anti-trapping pedestal button next to the futbol holder without connections, that will deactivate the laserfield for 5 seconds, in case you get stuck in there
Joric 2020年3月16日 6時14分 
@Leomievs, what's in update 3?
Narkodes 2020年3月16日 5時29分 
Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月16日 5時26分 
@Narkodes
That's epic lmao
Narkodes 2020年3月16日 4時37分 
Leo  [作成者] 2020年3月16日 3時45分 
@jandlml
You need to bring the futbol to the second area while leaving the standard cube in the in-between area so you can place it on the laserfield button again. The setup shown in your screenshot sure is close to being right, it's not exactly what you want but by moving some stuff you can definitely progress from there!