ive done some looking yeah holy nation are just a bunch of pricks that believe in something that they don't know they hate their idiots with a ok military

@GrilledCheese you did explain the whole okranite religion quite good, but Okran is the reincarnation(?) of chitrin (stobe) not stobe himself. Because he is one of the two halves of Chitrin (Okran & Narko) after he sacrificed himself to save humanity. Though worship or mention of Chitrin is in fact heresy in the holy nation probably to prevent priests and others from digging out the fact that he was a skeleton. Stobe will likely be treated as skeleton's idea to start the 2nd extinction due to no knowledge of him. I believe Stobe's sacrifice was mysticized to be of Chitrin's so that the resistance against the 2nd empire (skeleton-led) would be even more zealous thus effective in protecting the Okran's valley.

kenshi lore is just crazy man

I don't go near the holy nation. They try to kill me on sight because of the robot arm. This makes things annoying.

thanks for the help i really haven't done much looking at the holy nations lore that much so thanks again

its like the game indika, a nun with doubts vs crazy dude sure he hears god

ya pretty much. From what I remember reading on the wiki, Stobe was a giant skeleton (like the ones you can see at obedience) who sacrificed himself to stop something from wiping out humanity. Then over the generations, Stobe's sacrifice became myth, which morphed into a human god 'orkan'.

i think its about how the humans were under the robo boys and they became gods to them or something but no one cares about holy nation lore so

is this related to some deep kenshi lore that i dont know about?