In it's current state I cannot recommend this game.

Any other day, and that day consisting of no bots/cheaters polluting casual mode , I'd recommend tf2 110%. But given with how little valve has done to do anything about them, I don't recommend a new player gets this.
Mann vs Machine is still fun however, especially with friends, regardless if it's boot camp/mann up or the potato/pineapple mvm events, so it's not fully lost.

Seriously valve, I know you're a game/hardware company, and not a tf2 company, but PLEASE do something about this, I hate to see one of my all time favorite games be neglected like this.

*Sigh*. I do miss the old days when Valve cared about this game, makes me sad how this former titan of a video game is now a shell of it's former self.

In it's current state I cannot recommend this game. Any other day, and that day consisting of no bots/cheaters polluting casual mode , I'd recommend tf2 110%. But given with how little valve has done to do anything about them, I don't recommend a new player gets this. Mann vs Machine is still fun however, especially with friends, regardless if it's boot camp/mann up or the potato/pineapple mvm events, so it's not fully lost. Seriously valve, I know you're a game/hardware company, and not a tf2 company, but PLEASE do something about this, I hate to see one of my all time favorite games be neglected like this. *Sigh*. I do miss the old days when Valve cared about this game, makes me sad how this former titan of a video game is now a shell of it's former self.