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Because of your business trip abroad, you will wish to all of your players,
all the best and a lot of success in life and also when playing games, and also strong nerves ....
Have a nice Christmas holiday, and a lot of presents under the tree. Pleasant New Year 2019 ..

A nice new year in 2018, a lot of success in the game of steam and in life ... Karel

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Well never thought that a group like this exists on Steam

SS = super simple
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german,italian,japanese master race

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you work 4 them 7th?

about the holocaust, i dont deny that the SS were cruelsome to the jews, but you cant deny their disciplinary, which is something worth treasuring, dont try bury the good side of something just because you despise their bad side, you only get the right to hate someone once you understand and respect your enemy's goodness, or you will only become an ignorant fool whom based your hatred only on your emotion

im not saying the axis are good, neither trying to prove allies to be evil, everyside has its own dark and white, it only depends on how hard they try to show their white side and hide their dark side. But still, they created war on their own, as long as army still exists, it is as good as to say there will be another war, not soon then late.

the fact that allies's bombing because they have fear, you just based it off your judgement, what if your neighbour stab your family member because they say they fear your family, what would you say about that. Bombing civilians because of this "fear" doesnt prove anything, if every action that cost life (even the innocents) are based on emotions, then you shouldnt take part in politics (let's nuke china now or they will create ww3)

You do relize that fictional work still base on reality, do you?
Hitler lost the vote before 1930 miserably times after times to the point where he attemped a coup, only after the failed coup he manuevered his way through to get the votes, if you claim gaius's saying about hitler is wrong, then you need to read more

That you say the people thought that the jews were going in holidy camps is near to Holocaust denial, the Nazis sistematically discriminated jews, there were the awful pogroms of the 9 November 1938 and there were games with the titel: „jews Out“(!). No one could believe the Nazis wanted good things to the jews, there were many exemples for jewish discrimination, but here isnt the space to recite all.
You say i should watch „The boy with the stripped pyjamas“, thats only a bad joke, this thing is a fictional film based on a ficitonal book, it has no historical background. And as we speculate about warcrimes i would at first say you should read my comment about the SS from the 7. April again and you can tell me cruel warcrimes, but as unsurpassed, i would look at the massacre of Baby jar, 33000 dead jews, shoot from 150 men, mostly men from the SS.

Gaius Julius your argumentation has many weak spots, first its right the Allies did bomb Monte Cassino even as there were no germans in it, cause they had fear and i dont think thats a thing to judge. If there would been Germans hiding in there that would be a real problem for the allies, sure they made a mistake, but they did not bomb Monte Cassino cause they wanted to destroy it, if there would have been no germans, no bombs. The Nazis werent better with Art they didnt liked, modern art was presented in exhibitions called degenerate Art, Art they didnt liked wasnt shown or accepted.
What you say about Hitlers rise to power is also wrong, in a election 1932 the NSDAP got 42%, the Germans voted them and they knowed exactly what it was, they liked it. Yes the Treaty of Versailles was a big reason for the rise of right wing parties but it was not the only one, and even as Hitler got to power and lead the germans in a catastrophe the people still believed in him.

The people of Germany and the people involved in the war, most thought the Jews were going to a holiday camp! They of course hated the Jews but you should watch "The Boy in the stripped pajamas".

The point is that the German people are not to blame, the majority of SS were fighting for their cause like the allies were. The funny thing is that the Ex-SS Nazi officers were recruited to train the American army after WWII due to lack of discipline in American forces. The allies commited aweful atrocities and the only reason you do not point these out is because it would destroy your claim that Germany was the most aweful thing to happen in history.

I had to join the group to get involved in this brilliant arguement about Fascism. Recently I went to a place to called Mountacassino(?) (Brilliant place for Catholics, though I'm Atheist). The monestary is a place of worhsip to all Catholics and most certainly holy in the eyes of believers of God. However the monestary is rebuilt from the bombings by the ALLIES. Yes, the ALLIES bombed Mountacassino to the ground, just like Germany did with Ypes. However, the Allies forced Italy to pay for rebuilding.

Hitler only happened because of the anger created over the Dictate. He gained the support of the German people and he actually didn't get voted in, his party lost the vote. What he had to do was create a short civil war and take over via military, which he lost and was sent to jail. Eventually he politically out manouvered the chancellor and became Furhur(?).

i think if follow what you try to say about group name and new group thingy, it is somewhat the same as telling game makers not to allow players to pick germany in a WWII game. Because who pick germany are fascist, same as who decided to join this group are fascists

So we have a question, does this group want to honor such a organisation? The actual group name attracts many people with a facist ideology(f.e. RIGHT-WING DEATH SQUAD, i could further count some other examples but that would take to long), and as i said my proposal would be to establish a new group which can just be a group of players who enjoy historical games.

But that was not the beginning point of our discussion, at first i said there are clearly facist people in this group, i gave you evidencies, but more and more i feel like the more of this i write the more you say: „You understand nothing“ and doesnt answer on the things i mentioned.
But the main point was the name of this group, i still have the opinion using the name of the SS gives her positive attention and glorifies her and that is horribly wrong. Even if you say there were two parts of the SS, you have a problem: „Only“ 3 Million jews died in Camps, but the rest didnt, and as the SS was famous for killing jews, you can clearly see that the Waffen-SS murdered millions of people. Their soldiers were infamous for even trying to overfullfill there orders, war crimes in dimensions never known before were the consequence. The SS was basicly the most reliable organisation for the NS-regime to put his criminal planes into practice.

I am a little bit frustrated that this discussion obviously has come to an end, cause the main points have not been answered. I read through the whole discussion and i still do not understand the blame that i wouldnt understand anything. Even if the Holocaust was ordered from a small group of people, many helped doing it and no one said a word as his jewish fellow citizens got systematicly discriminated and deportated. After the War it looks like the only activity of the germans was to say: „He ordered me this, i only followed orders“ No one made clear about the role he played, more or less big, in the murder machine of the Nazis. So am i a bad person if i judge the murder of more than 30 Million people and say that the cruelity of the Nazi Regime was unsurpassed in his despite for everythign „non-aric“? I believe im not.

that is real, been following the whole things for months

this arguement's knowledge is beyond my world of understanding, surely you guys are amazing on political

I never said you would deny the holocaust, i only said David Irving who is obviously ideologic near to the video you posted is denying the holocaust. You are evading the debatte, you dont even answer on my proves about the racist profile of this group. You said in your comment from the 26. February that there are no proves for the 5th SS divsion to murder jews, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And to your claim the Nazis werent the worst(even if it is dumm to speculate about the "cruelity" of cruels), i again want to quotate Imre Kertesz. "The murders of the bolschewism had a tactic, they were result of a historical-political point of view." and even if this tactic was insanly dumm and paranoid it had a "sense", the Nazis murdered cause they wanted to murder, no sense , no need for it. Maybe you can prove me that there is something more cruel but the absolute despite of the Nazis for the life of "non-aric" people is unbelievable and unsurpassed.

If you really are against nazis and you want to change the name, do a new group, write the name in the comments and then we will go there, i can give you enough proves that there are racist and facist people in this group:
f.e. The video you posted on the 31. of march, i cant even watch it in germany, and youtube proposes me videos about conspiracy videos about "Zionist Churchill" and videos from david Irving who is absolutely wrong with his theories and judged as a Holocaust denier. There are people in your group who are also in groups like "National socialsm party Spain" which goal it is to "unite all Spanish speaking white people". Your yourself said that there are no proves that the SS had commited warcrimes: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You there were different SS parts, one for the KZs and one for the front, right, but they were all under the command of one man, dont you believe they pretty much all had the same tasks?
enough proves?

I dont know really what you mean with "i was a nazi but in this life", but i can explain you why i am against the Nazi Party, cause i am, cause their Ideas are the most cruel thing that ever happened on this world. Or as Imre Kertesz, Holocaust-survivor, said (nice quotation i read in the newspaper), the nazi system is based on the lowest instincts of the human race. The Germans elected(!) the NSDAP, and as there were crimes on their fellow citizens they did nothing, they kept silent.
(also to the SS thing, i can only say read my comments from the 28. February and the 25. February)

im racist against white ppl,problem?

And to Mr. 7th Moutain Div, you say the group isnt racist, give me proves, you didnt answer on my critical comments last time, now you can, i really would like maybe to discuss that, prove it to me that this group isnt racist, only a "players group", try it

Okay, i didnt know, critical commentaries get removed. Thats and the video the Admin posted in the last comment (so racist, i in germany cant watch it) is the prove that this group doesnt want to answer on critics. Short commentaries that obviously tell the truth are removed.
But i will say it again.
In this group there are people who support conspiracy theories, there are clearly racist people, the group is racist, gloryfing war crimes and the SS in general. If you want to join the group rethink, do you want to really belong to a group that is clearly facist?

Made hitlerjugend haircut ,look as horst wessel with my face and haircut <3

jews provided 70% of the nazi war funding to wage the war

7th mountain Div did you just meet me in WT?

I researched a little bit myself in the internet and what did you say is partly right, but it were 150000 Soldiers with jewish origins from which the most didnt were counted as jews beacuse they were no jews, they maybe had a jewish great-grandfather but that was it, if you would be jew, and the Nazis had clear definitions who was "jew" you wouldnt get in the Wehrmacht. And i would like to ask you why it looks like my comment would deny the holocaust? That makes absolutely no sense to me. And ask you what you mean with the last sentence of your comment yourself.

Any evidences? Links, books? You know that that isnt logic, 1933 there were 500000 Jews in Germany. Up to 1939 there were sysematic discriminations and many jews already emigrated. A third of the jewish population of 1933 must have been in the Wehrmacht and even Germany didnt have that percentage. If you were jew you needed to have this written in your identification card and if you would know the insanity of the NS Regime about jews you would also know that they werent allowed in the Wehrmacht and dont even think about the Waffen-SS who should be a aric organisation to establish the Nazi order in occupied countries and that included massacring jews, many jews.

I feel like you didnt read my earlier comments, i already said every Soldier can prove bravness in battle, look it up. And what the Hell do you define under jewish things? Do you have any evidence that they did not massacre Jews? There are more than enough proves that there was the Holocaust and cruel Massacres to jews, and any evidences thats there were jews in the divison? You commentar is not a argument its a claim, thats nearly a lie.

Sorry for spaming text but i need some space to explain this. And its right that the SS was splint into two parts, but here its on the SS in general and that doesnt mean that f.e. the 5th SS divsion did not massacre jews cause they were jews, the did, they killed a lot of them.

Because they thought what the Nazis did was right and they were part of a "higher race". Yeah most armies in histroy killed civs but mostly that was to support fighting or not on purpose. The German-Soviet War was other, the target was to kill the Russians, not to conquer them, to kill them or to slave them. I am German mayself and i am deeply ashamed when i read to what action my forefathers were capable, the Holocaust and the German policy in the Eastern territories were the biggest crimes humanity ever experienced and so you dont need to honor them by using names of the people who did them.

I dont say that this group is facist, even if some memebers are in other groups that i think are clearly racist, i only dont find it right to glorify the SS by using these names, as i said in the last comment you connect them with positiv attention. And i must say even if i know much about history, my knowledge about the SS is mostly out of Wikipedia articels, but to say "The 5th SS Division isnt bad, cause others also commented warcrimes and it wasnt even a Nazi division". I think the 5th is even worser, i can partly understand the normal Wehrmacht soldier who did what his commander said, cause if not you get shoot. But people who join the SS volunteraly are the worsest. They joined because they supported Nazi Ideology, because she believed in that what they said, that the Sowjets need to be killed.

the group name doesnt prove anything, just one's hobby and interests

And i'm a communist in an german themed group