"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin

"its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"

It's better for everyone to suffer equally than for 1% to prosper.

For the 2016 Nominee, I would like it to be Rand Paul or Ted Cruz...But they are to Conservative for the modern-day Republican party Sadly! It will probably be some one like Chris Christie or some other Rihno!!!

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill

has anybody else stopped saying the pledge of allegiance in school (for people in middle-highschool)

i still am anti government

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

@Schwo0b that sums it up perfectly.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -Thomas Jefferson

no Obama

Define "better".

We need a better America!

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OBAMA WON!!!!! WOOT!!!!! YAY!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8L1n4iDKL8

*Freedom of Speech, can't delete this comment. ^^*

Visit my Proflie to Give you the website, Also Only if ur from California (duh).

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Ronald reagan for 2013? ( i wish T~T )

We need to go back and follow what this country was founded apon.

I am so happy there are fellow Americans who believe in the same things that I do. STOP OBAMA before he destroys this country!

WE NEED TO STOP THE LIBRALS FROM DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sick of us helping everyone out around the world because we are being used for money and no one respects us. I believe we should close our borders for awhile, kick out all the illegal scum, vote out all the socialist and worry about our own true citizens for a change. We have starving, dieing, unemployed and people who deserve a chance instead of all the worthless trash around the world.

We should have a debate on if it is (or is not) America's place, duty, or obligation to be the world's police man.

Today is D-Day

Woot!!! A tea party group!

Your Welcome, you participated in the debates on the Tea Party side so you desrved it.

I do believe we won that debate, good sirs, as it has been quiet here for quite some time now.

I also just realized that I have been made an Admin of this gorup, and would like to express my thanks to Rudolf for the promotion.

I have been checking here once every 2 days or so for a nice little fight. But alas they must have retreated off the field of debate back into their little ratholes to read their beloved manifesto.

I miss the communist... No more debating.....

Hampstead Hill was a pretty awesome slaughter of the British as well although I do not know the exact figures of that battle. Manifest Destiny did not push us to a superpower on world scale it only pushed us to the Pacific Ocean. It was Capitaqlism and the domination to the world markets that lead to our superpower status. In the "Age of Imperialism" America was doing some of the lowest expansion then most of Western Europe.

Total for the British and 13 dead and 28 Casualties total for the Americans. Considereing that all but 200 of the 2000 Americans were milita and mercernary pirates. The British had 10,000 regulars and more cannons. We lost the first phase of that war I am not denying that but we won the last and most crucial phase. The peace treaty reflected that too. LOOK IT UP THEN SPEAK.

Ive been gone the past week on vacation. So I see that the arguement still is going. @Kral Smetana Ceskoslovakia yes it was luck in the Revolution that saved us although Washington did perform a great maneuver around the British stationed in New York to get to Yorktown. But in 1812 look up the Battle of Hampstead Hill that is where the Americans defeated the land invasion force outside Baltimore MD. The campaign of the British there was a huge failure after the burning of Washington D.C. If you know anything whatsoever about military tatics and strategy then you will know that a campaign may go out good but end in failure. That is exactly what happened to the British campaign of the summer and fall of 1814. A few victories for them at Bladensburg and D.C. But ultmanly defeated at both Hampstead Hill and Fort Mchenry. The winter campaign of 1814 was a complete disaster for the British with New Orleans. Like I said the result of that battle was 800 dead 2000 casualties

There is some disability with your link, it continually says page isnt avaliable.

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umm ya it does.

Still doesent work..........

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Smetana work on the link you give me, it says the page cannot be found.

Actually the bibles does, the bible when telling christians to "Render to Ceaser what is Ceaser's and render to what is God's God."

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Oskar: "Christianity incites Violene when they get involved with politics, the bible for this reason seperates government and church because they know if they combined politicans will use the church an excuse to do killing. Ex. Justinian 1 of byzantine. And i dont think Buddhism do incite violence, i could be wrong."
Oskar, the bible absolutely does not seperate church and state. most first world countries today have done so, but the bible never forbade that. which is why in the medieval era the lines got so blurred.

Yes he isnt he is more of a classic Liberal in the 19th centtury

I'm not communist. Thank you very much.

Yes, something along those lines. :)

Kral seems to me, to be more of a Secular Humanst, than an actual Marxist, in his defense of Islam.

They simply wish to demonize us as white christian radicals.

What I want to know is this, why does Kral insist on defending the Quran, when Marxism-Leninism is an explicitly Atheistic worldview.

The Tea Parties, and most certainly a majority of Conservatives are not racist against Arabs, or any race. It is all about Ideologies. It would be rediculous to think that discriminating among ideologies is a bad thing.

and I have a question what percentage of SIlam do you think is radical, the average reasoning is 10% but what do you think the percentage is?

Well you can get it, It is an Iphone App called the AlQuran version 2.0.

Well, sir, you have to look a the total pop. of the world to get an accurate basis of really how many people were kiilled and the tech. at the time taht allowed them to kill people. Plus Oskar, if that link worked, it would prove many of the sights out their are islamaphobes with their mis-translations of the Qu'ran that the spread out to the people. I'd like to see the sight your getting it from, and i doubt it's a muslims sight since you can't read arabic.

Uh, quick question, how did we get from discussing politics and economics, to the affects of religion on soceity?

That being said, I would like to point out that in the last 60 years alone, the Atheistic religion of Marxism-Leninism has killed far more than all theistic religions combined.